This is the BEST! I have joint pains in my knees and back pains and as soon as I use the gel my pains [is relieved]. Most of the time it only takes one layer. I wish I could bathe in this stuff and I really wish that I would have known about RTPR when my mom and dad were still alive so I could have taken their arthritis pain away. I am telling everyone I see about this. HEY IT WORKS.... Thank you so much for this product.